Comments on: Blog: Cisco Announces New CCIE Learning Program…Why didn’t they Partner?

By: IPexpert: Will IPexpert Begin Cisco 360 Training? « CCIE Pursuit Blog

IPexpert: Will IPexpert Begin Cisco 360 Training? « CCIE Pursuit Blog — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:17:29 +0000

[...] biggest downside is that the training is very expensive and you must be a Cisco Learning Partner (Arden Packeer has a great explanation here). Wayne Lawson seemed pretty underwhelmed by the whole deal in this post. Does this recent [...]

By: NTllect

NTllect — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:29:15 +0000

An interesting post.

Though, I think official study guides are not as smart as authored books.

By: The IPexpert Blog » My View of the Cisco 360 Learning Program – PART 1

The IPexpert Blog » My View of the Cisco 360 Learning Program – PART 1 — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:17:14 +0000

[...] Arden Packeer’s in-depth analysis concludes, “I think I’ll stick to the third party vendors for my CCIE material.” [...]

By: Mad_Prof

Mad_Prof — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:09:14 +0000

This new program has nothing to do without quality control. Cisco is trying to create another revenue stream. NMC is already repackaged their original offerings under this new program but with a higher cost.
Basically, Cisco will add additional cost to CCIE level training.Greed and arrogance are becoming the hallmarks of Cisco.

By: Even More Information on Cisco’s New 360 CCIE Training Program « CCIE Pursuit Blog

Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:35:14 +0000

[...] Arden Packeer posted an excellent blog entry about this new program which gives nice look inside the Cisco training hierarchy and explains what the hell is a CLSP? [...]

By: ccieguru

ccieguru — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:21:22 +0000

See the details i posted in my blog about the 360 program:

http://ccieguru.wordpress.com/

By: Bubba Jones

Bubba Jones — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:29:51 +0000

Well, you definitely got one part absolutely correct: It’s about money.

While it’s nice to look at Cisco “developing” this training program, they aren’t. It is Netmasterclass. It is repackaged, sold and offered through a larger platform in order to make Cisco money.

Someone was very smart to realize there was a lot of “untapped talent” at these evil third-party (whence prior to Nov.1 there was no “other” party to be third to) training partners. More importantly, there was a lot of money based on years of successful companies that Cisco wasn’t getting their share of.

Cisco Learning Credits are another scam. Training Partners get $90 out of a $100 credit. AND they have to pay royalties still for the “derived” work. The attitude is that anything with “Cisco” in the materials is “derived”. No matter who dreamed it up.

This is a business move. It’s not to better the training. It’s to try to scale training that already existed.

If the CLSP’s that offer this class have the same instructors they’ve used for other classes I’ve been in, God help us all!

You can give great materials (assuming they are great) to a mediocre or crappy instructor and the outcome will still be mediocre or crappy at best.

I would be interested in knowing what bonus the manager/director who came up with this idea is getting for it? But make no mistake. Training and certifications at Cisco have turned into a profit center, not a learning center.

By: Wael

Wael — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:34:41 +0000

Arden you are absolutely right about this,those guys are really inspiring. I think CISCO has finally realized the potential of CCIE training as a business asset or they are trying to balance or reshape the market. !!